practical matter and I suppose it isnt necessary that we understand the technicalities if we are permitted to get what we were after. I think there is no doubt that the Secretary will grant us a permit if we make proper application.

I hope that you will be able to see personally to the matter as there might be some advantage gained and a better understanding. Sometimes a personal face to face discussion of the matter makes things look differently.

Perhaps it has slipped your mind that we have a permit from the Secretary of the Interior more recent than the one which you obtained in 1908 to collect on "The Reservation".

This permit comes under the same act (34 Stat., 225) under which we would have to get a permit to collect now, though of course the creation of the Monument is a special act and I suppose takes it out of the "public" lands of the United States". I send copy.